The event was very bias from what I witness yesterday. I notice some of the Pigeons would let their squad members have easy collisions with them. Meaning, fly with gears down in level alt. While the rest of us had to work our butts off just to get a collision with a Pigeon. I type up several times in that event, that it was rigged each time I seen that violation. Even the person that was getting all the easy collisions type in open chat, that the Pigeons had to been on his squad, because he said it was too easy colliding with the Pigeons. If we have this event again, could we please have pilots that isn't with associated with any squads be the Pigeons ?
thanks,
Nitro
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Nitro, because you are USAAC Staff you have access to this board, however only Refs should really be posting here. Note that this is not a section that is busy or currently being used. You should only post here if you are a Ref of part of the USAAC Mgmt Team. As a Forum Moderator you are part of Staff but not the Mgmt Team.
I think you should have made this comment in the Fun Events Public area. I must admit however that posting here in private probably is the best idea so USAAC Mgmt and Refs could address this. So, in this respect you were right to post here.
Now, Addressing your comments as if they were in the public area: Events and Leagues.
I think that with your observations that we should have only USAAC officials as targets. I would hope that USAAC Staff would NOT allow a certain group to be favored and do their best to 'avoid' .. as it is the objective of the game targets to do so. Fair Play is something we really want to make sure is a constant at USAAC.
I'm sure its really hard for Popgun to find reliable pilots for targets. I was supposed to be one of those targets and lost track of all the commitments I had made, so I had to leave Pop high and dry and tell him I could not be a target only 1 hour prior .. so this fact put Pop in a bad place to scramble and find a target .. and said target may not have had the same idea of 'fair play' as you and I or USAAC Staff in general has.
There is room for improvement, and now that we are 'aware' I'm sure Pop and Staff will keep your comments in mind.
Thank you .. and know that your comments and suggestions always 'register' but may not always be directly addressed.
Nitro, because you are USAAC Staff you have access to this board, however only Refs should really be posting here. Note that this is not a section that is busy or currently being used. You should only post here if you are a Ref of part of the USAAC Mgmt Team. As a Forum Moderator you are part of Staff but not the Mgmt Team.
I think you should have made this comment in the Fun Events Public area. I must admit however that posting here in private probably is the best idea so USAAC Mgmt and Refs could address this. So, in this respect you were right to post here.
Now, Addressing your comments as if they were in the public area: Events and Leagues.
I think that with your observations that we should have only USAAC officials as targets. I would hope that USAAC Staff would NOT allow a certain group to be favored and do their best to 'avoid' .. as it is the objective of the game targets to do so. Fair Play is something we really want to make sure is a constant at USAAC.
I'm sure its really hard for Popgun to find reliable pilots for targets. I was supposed to be one of those targets and lost track of all the commitments I had made, so I had to leave Pop high and dry and tell him I could not be a target only 1 hour prior .. so this fact put Pop in a bad place to scramble and find a target .. and said target may not have had the same idea of 'fair play' as you and I or USAAC Staff in general has.
There is room for improvement, and now that we are 'aware' I'm sure Pop and Staff will keep your comments in mind.
Thank you .. and know that your comments and suggestions always 'register' but may not always be directly addressed.
Tbar, Nitro is a ref 
Nitro, are you absolutely sure this was going on? Are you sure they weren't just joking about it? I've been the pigeon a number of times and choosing who collides with you would be very difficult when flying in a crowd of catchers. As far as gear down, they are supposed to be down.
I would rather see complaints addressed in a private forum instead of an open one, at least initially, because of the dissension I am seeing in almost every aspect of the game these days. I feel we all need to put our differences aside and work together if this game is to prosper.
Nitro, are you absolutely sure this was going on? Are you sure they weren't just joking about it? I've been the pigeon a number of times and choosing who collides with you would be very difficult when flying in a crowd of catchers. As far as gear down, they are supposed to be down.
I would rather see complaints addressed in a private forum instead of an open one, at least initially, because of the dissension I am seeing in almost every aspect of the game these days. I feel we all need to put our differences aside and work together if this game is to prosper.
Yes TBAR I been a REF for a while now. :-) I didn't want to put this out in open to put dark cloud on this event. Rather keep it in private. And yes I am sure FD Fox was gaving easy collisions. I seen it up and close a few times in that event yesterday. Some of the Pigeons would drop their gears and fly straight level line so he could get a easy collision. Who were all the Pigeons that flew in that event yesteday? That might shed some light on this. Even FD Fox said it was too easy... Took this from the chat log yesterday.....
CHAT 04:53pm AMa [FD]_6_FoxCR SU: pigs must be fds LOL
CHAT 04:54pm You: thats why i said it was rigged
CHAT 04:54pm You: lol
CHAT 04:54pm AMa [FD]_6_FoxCR SU: lol
CHAT 04:54pm FOf drone_X SU: pigeone4 must be temper he cant spell )
CHAT 04:54pm AMa [FD]_6_FoxCR SU: LOL
CHAT 04:54pm AMa [FD]_6_FoxCR SU: dam 25
CHAT 04:54pm AMa [FD]_6_FoxCR SU: this is to easy
CHAT 04:54pm Cdt Pigieon4 GB: Cmon Strife
CHAT 04:54pm You: they dont move for you
CHAT 04:54pm AMa [FD]_6_FoxCR SU: i dont get this many kills in koffa
CHAT 04:53pm AMa [FD]_6_FoxCR SU: pigs must be fds LOL
CHAT 04:54pm You: thats why i said it was rigged
CHAT 04:54pm You: lol
CHAT 04:54pm AMa [FD]_6_FoxCR SU: lol
CHAT 04:54pm FOf drone_X SU: pigeone4 must be temper he cant spell )
CHAT 04:54pm AMa [FD]_6_FoxCR SU: LOL
CHAT 04:54pm AMa [FD]_6_FoxCR SU: dam 25
CHAT 04:54pm AMa [FD]_6_FoxCR SU: this is to easy
CHAT 04:54pm Cdt Pigieon4 GB: Cmon Strife
CHAT 04:54pm You: they dont move for you
CHAT 04:54pm AMa [FD]_6_FoxCR SU: i dont get this many kills in koffa
Well spank me royal! 
sorry Nitro .. I didn't realize you were a Ref .. but I should have known because I posted all that crap!! Only proves I got too much going on where I can't keep track of things
Accept my apologies
sorry Nitro .. I didn't realize you were a Ref .. but I should have known because I posted all that crap!! Only proves I got too much going on where I can't keep track of things
Accept my apologies
No problem Tbar. But anyway if you can name who were all the Pigeons in that event yesterday, that might shed some light on this situation. Also FD Fox was late coming to the event, and once he got there, he was talking for 5 minutes or so about this new FIOS he got installed. So he didn't start playing until 15 minutes after event started. He had 27 collisions with Pigeons before I had enough and left the event. Tell me how someone get that many collisions in a short amount of time without some of the Pigeons playing dead for him? Its impossible. No way, no how. I also notice FD Scarecrow was racking up tons of collisions also. So my question is, how many of the Pigeons were FD members or non of them ?
thanks,
Nitro
thanks,
Nitro
I was supposed to be a pigeon, but PC problems kept me offline till after the game was over. I don't know who the pigeons were, will have to ask Popgun.
What did you find out so far ?
I talked to 2 people that were there and they said they saw nothing like what you described.
I guess if you want to take the matter further you need to get with Sal.
I guess if you want to take the matter further you need to get with Sal.
naa Temper. I already found out who the Pigeons were from doing my own investigations. They were :
1. FD Tzu
2. FD SkyDancer
3. Tow Joker
4. PopGuns's cousin who is on USHA Squad.
I also going to drop all the charges, because I dont want this look like i was being a cry baby.
1. FD Tzu
2. FD SkyDancer
3. Tow Joker
4. PopGuns's cousin who is on USHA Squad.
I also going to drop all the charges, because I dont want this look like i was being a cry baby.
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