Tides of War

Well, I played a IGN battlecruiser mission (German patched version), and I managed to get some targets:

14:00:37 - Mission begonnen um 31.25.40S, 34.54.9E

14:04:34 - DD 135 zerst?rt mit einer 38,1cm-Deckkanone um WSW, 7500

14:07:28 - DD 137 zerst?rt mit einer 38,1cm-Deckkanone um SW, 3300

14:07:58 - DD 144 zerst?rt mit einer 38,1cm-Deckkanone um NW, 2900

14:08:28 - DD 142 zerst?rt mit einer 38,1cm-Deckkanone um NW, 2700

14:09:08 - Z-106 zerst?rt durch einen amerikanischen Zerst?rer

14:09:20 - Von einen amerikanischen Zerst?rer unter Feuer genommen

14:09:24 - B126 zerst?rt durch einen amerikanischen Zerst?rer

14:09:29 - DD 147 zerst?rt mit einer 38,1cm-Deckkanone um NNW, 3000

14:09:30 - DD 143 zerst?rt mit einer 38,1cm-Deckkanone um NNW, 2200

14:10:16 - Z-105 zerst?rt durch einen amerikanischen Zerst?rer

14:10:45 - DE 141 zerst?rt mit einer 38,1cm-Deckkanone um SW, 1700

14:11:03 - Z-113 zerst?rt durch einen amerikanischen Begleitzerst?rer

14:11:16 - DE 140 zerst?rt mit einer 38,1cm-Deckkanone um SSW, 1700

14:14:10 - B132 zerst?rt mit einer 38,1cm-Deckkanone um NE, 1600

You should be able to understand this even if you don't know any German - I destroyed a bomber (=aircraft) with my 15in guns eh: Well, all I did was an 'ENGAGE' order - and the AI started firing everything it had at the poor plane... 5in, 15in, AA guns. Even more interesting: The AI only did this when I ordered 'stand down'. As soon as I ordered 'Defend Deck guns' the 15in stopped firing at the plane

Scary.

Well, at least I did a proper job and blasted the plane to dust eh: enigma!:

The difference from "Engage" & "Defend DeckGuns" is that "Engage" takes on the closest target (air or sea), or the target youre aiming at with your Bi'nocs, where "Defend...." takes on the closest sea target

The difference from "Engage" & "Defend DeckGuns" is that "Engage" takes on the closest target (air or sea), or the target youre aiming at with your Bi'nocs, where "Defend...." takes on the closest sea target

OK, no problem with that, but why does the AI attack an aircraft with 15in guns? It doesn't make any sense at all...

the gunner wanted a confirmed kill?

the gunner was sure he could hit?

the crew placed a bet?

I dunno.. hehe:

or...our former AI programmer didn't distinguish between a 4" AA gun and a non-AA version.

or...our former AI programmer didn't distinguish between a 4" AA gun and a non-AA version.

I liked my version better

also i think its ok that atleast 3" and 4" can be used as AA guns, especially for subs.

or...our former AI programmer didn't distinguish between a 4" AA gun and a non-AA version.

OK, no problem with that either, but, to be honest, I have never heard of 15in AA guns

It's not a serious problem, and watching the main guns following the circling plane was quite some show to watch :laugh: wave:

I have read of cases where heavy guns on ships could be used as AA guns against low flying torpedo planes by trying to fire in front of the oncoming planes and catching them in the shell splash. Although that may just be another delusion of my fevered brain crazy: ...........time for another beer. buxton:

Regards,

SeaWolf

That's right, AND, main deck guns often fired shells with proximity fuses to attack large aerial formations. And what of the RN Dido-class AA-cruisers?

That's right, AND, main deck guns often fired shells with proximity fuses to attack large aerial formations. And what of the RN Dido-class AA-cruisers?

This is right for guns up to 6in caliber (15cm), but it won't make any sense for big guns (11in and up). Their shells were far too heavy to be fired high into the air and would have lost momentum long before they could have reached any point near aircraft swarms, and these guns were firing too slow to be capable of AA-Defense. Large caliber guns like main batteries on pocket battle ships, battle cruisers and battleships were solely Anti Ground artillery, and I doubt that 8in guns on heavy cruisers would have been capable of AA gunning.

Dido class, btw, carried either eight 5.25in guns and one 4in gun (first group), ten 5.25in guns (second group) or nine 4.5in guns and one 4in guns (third group), and even then the 4.5in was far better suited to the main task (AA - Defense) than the 5.25in.

In WWII German warships were equipped with several types of AA guns, mainly 20mm and 37mm, some 88mm, but even some very heavy 105mm AA guns, but during the war the latter proved to be more or less ineffective for the reasons given above: Too slow in firing, unable to reach high altitudes.