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Russia... Where Are You ?
Posted: Thu May 27, 2004 6:46 am
by VIKONT
As far as I remember my history lessons Germany defeated Russia in WWI (1917), which was one of the major reasons for the communist revolution, and after some skirmishes Russia was forced to make peace at Brest-Litowsk early in 1918, which left vast lands in western Russia (today mostly Ukraine and the baltic states) in German hands.
Nevertheless: In reality Russia had a fine fleet at the start of WWII, and they even fought the Germans on several occasions very successfully. Unfortunately the actions taken by the red fleet hardly made it to the history books, because their importance ranks very low compared to the land battles.
in reality Russian fleet died in Zusima in 1905......
in WW1 Russian Empire was holding Germany & Austro-Hungarian Empire.
But England and France - 2 powerful countries!!! - fought against
only alone Germany.......
despite the fact that we had fell back from territiries of Ukrain and Belarus,
large forces of enemy were staying on eastern theatre.
owing to this help ally Eng and ally Fr. could defeat germans.........
to my mind in WW2 the best fleets were American and Japaneese.
Comunists actions during the revolution were generally barbarian,
you`re quite right. It`s a pity, but Nikky II and bourgeois government
couldnt hold the sway.
by the way, explain me plaese, who won the WW2 ?
It's nice that you just deleted the most important part of my posting... (rather offensive to use the remains to start a flame war...)
Hey, boy, we're talking about Enigma-1937 and how we got there, compared to the originial history up to 1937. Not about WWII in reality (which started, fyi, in 1939, and if I remember right Russia was Germany's ally back then, until 1941 at least...).
And: I didn't say 'best' fleet, but 'fine' fleet. Don't know how many Russian sailors didn't show enough 'political correctness' in Stalin's eyes, but they had some excellent surface ships. Three decades after Tsushima. By far enough time to build up a fleet.
it`s nice to see that you reading very attentivly...
actually, I unswered only that words, that I considered important.....
and I`m not really against Germany in a game has lots of ours territories !!!
let it be !!! Russians are not greedy !!! we have lands enough comparing
with poor european countries......
besides, in Enigma I am Oberliutenant (I cant remember correctly this word in Englis) of german navy ...
by the way, were are you from ? from Germ ? reaaly ?
Russia... Where Are You ?
Posted: Thu May 27, 2004 10:57 am
by Vaarok
If soviets and germans are fighting in the middle of poland, I would guess Ukraine and such are Russian territory. Otherwise, how would the russians be in poland?
Russia... Where Are You ?
Posted: Fri May 28, 2004 10:19 am
by VIKONT
If soviets and germans are fighting in the middle of poland, I would guess Ukraine and such are Russian territory. Otherwise, how would the russians be in poland?
exactly, UKra was Russian territory in that times.
some years ago we have lost this territory........
but no dout Kiev, the second capitol of Russia, is steel being The city
of russian intellectuals (as St.Petersburg).
the people who live now in Ukra are called by we "hohly"......
smth like "Yankee" for europeans (dont empress it as a bad word, dear Americans)
how would the russians be in Poland ?......
frankly speaking, we occupied it with Germans, parted it cruely.....
Russia... Where Are You ?
Posted: Sat May 29, 2004 4:48 am
by Skillz_Mcmaster
Ok, two things:
1) Because this is a post WW1 alternate storyline, we are left to assume the Communists came to power, just like they did in the actual timeline. However, in going with the alternate spirit that is at the core of Engima, I give the following proposal: Mkae the leader of Soviet Russia not Josef Stalin, but Leon Trotsky. Now, many of you might be scratching your heads as to who that other fellow is. Well, to put it in brief, after Lenin's death, 2 men "feuded" over control of Russia (Stalin and Trotsky) and Stalin "won", assasinating Trotsky to become dictator. Now, wouldn't it be cool if Trotsky won instead, and was the leader of Soviet Russia? He was far more of an idealist then Stalin, a direct protoge of Lenin and a very firm beliver in the Communist ideals, system and the "free the workers of the world" sort of mentality, where Stalin was more of a realist and realized what power he could seize. Just a thought.
2) Alternate Storyline...crucial.
Russia... Where Are You ?
Posted: Sat May 29, 2004 7:30 am
by Wesforce
Interesting - Make the Soviet Union the closest we have to 'good guys' of te peace

Russia... Where Are You ?
Posted: Sat May 29, 2004 7:04 pm
by Vaarok
Or Kirov...
Russia... Where Are You ?
Posted: Sun May 30, 2004 5:14 am
by Fragger
hello my russian friend

Russia... Where Are You ?
Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2004 7:03 pm
by VIKONT
sorry, dear friends (by the way, in Russia we call you all "borgooiee',
exactly - all europeans, americans, australlians ) ...
but how do you call us in your fast speech?
I was on practise from university,
I have been working as a pedagog (not teacer) in our children`s sanatorium........
who`s been speaking heAR about Trozkiy ?
our historians think, if he would be a leader of our
country, the situation would be the same as with Stalin.
p s
i heard some weeks ago, in Us they oficially deleated the PAst perfect tense..... am I right ore not ?
Russia... Where Are You ?
Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2004 8:40 pm
by Jesper
In Denmark we call you "russians"

Russia... Where Are You ?
Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2004 9:21 pm
by East
In the USA we call you...Russians.