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Usn Surface Campaign Mission #6
Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2004 3:39 pm
by Argon
I also used the dive right in method. You can actually engage before you see them on radar so go to Battle Stations right away and ahead flank and hard to port. I set tubes to port and headed N X NE. I took out the the group coming in from the NE and let the CVs take out the ones coming from the NW. Keep all guns to bear on any target that tries to line up a Torp shot on you. If you can get past the torps, you got em. I got the group to chase me to the East pulling them away from the fleet and then doubled back to help the CV's. I think I got about 5 or 6 PT's and a couple of planes. I took one torp and a bomb from a plane but I survived and so did most of the fleet.
Usn Surface Campaign Mission #6
Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2004 8:38 pm
by blase
Just can't get past this one. I've tried this mission about 30 times using all sorts of different tactics, and usually get the convoy blown out from under me. Any other ideas or tactics????
Perhaps those things always go together? I'm really good at evading incoming torps but have problems using them myself...
Usn Surface Campaign Mission #6
Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2004 1:37 am
by Argon
I just reran this one cause it's been a while. I took 2 torps but survived. Not real pretty but I lived through it. It seems my method works (barely this time)
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USA Surface Mission 6
18:30:59 - Mission started at 43.13.13N, 55.9.44W
18:31:36 - Spotted a League bomber at 43.22.27N, 55.11.59W
18:33:21 - Taking fire from a League sub hunter
18:34:13 - Destroyed MTB-17 with a 4in deck gun round NNW at 550 meters.
18:34:39 - OL13 destroyed by a League sub hunter
18:35:37 - OL11 destroyed by a League sub hunter
18:36:02 - Destroyed MTB-19 with a 4in deck gun round N at 248 meters.
18:36:59 - Destroyed MTB-27 with a 50cal round NW at 478 meters.
18:37:38 - Destroyed MTB-28 with a 4in deck gun round NNW at 550 meters.
18:46:19 - Mission completed at 43.13.30N, 55.9.43W
Planes Destroyed: 0
Ships Sunk: 4
Usn Surface Campaign Mission #6
Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2004 5:53 am
by MajorMajor
I actually found another, slightly time consuming way to beat this mission. For the longest time I was stuck (probably tried at least 10 times or so) and then after reading this thread I decided to try it once more.
While playing I thought, I have twelve merchant ships, each of them has a three incher, I can command them, 12 guns on one target, only two hits to sink each target....Schweet! So I paused the game and had all the merchants target 1 MTB and I readjusted them as necessary sometimes only targeting 4 or 5 ships to MTB. This had an unintended side effect. In addition to blowing the crap out of the MTB's the tankers also turned towards the swarm offering a greatly reduced target profile. (head on vs. broadside, and you know how much fun those Vospers are to aim. Damn MilchCows!!

)
Anyhow, it only took me two more tries to do the mission this way, I would have made it the first time, I smoked the swarm with only 2 or 3 losses, but I wasn't paying attention while I waited for time to run out and a tanker hit me
Anyhow just thought I would post my strategy for those who are desperate enough to try anything

Usn Surface Campaign Mission #6
Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2004 8:32 am
by Buxton
That's the way I did it the first time
/bux
Usn Surface Campaign Mission #6
Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2004 5:34 am
by Zenic

I've been doing exactly that on my last three trie's and every time they just manage to kill 5. I even in some cases HIT the torpido's to try and stop them, but nothing sees to be working....

I'll keep trying but... I'll have to get back to you on that.. heh
Usn Surface Campaign Mission #6
Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2004 8:33 pm
by BaronKirkVonKirkbean
Try using P to pause the game , and then make sure you are targetting the nearest enemy . As soon as one is sunk,,, Target another !
Usn Surface Campaign Mission #6
Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2004 8:16 pm
by Jaeden
Jaeden Here,
I'm on attempt 10, starting to get frustrating. It seems that its the first 4 minutes that are so crucial. Looking over my logs it always seems I lose 3 ships in the first 4 minutes. (Though I am improving)
Here are a couple of logs with comments; (anyone else's logs look similiar?)
USA Surface Mission 6
(USS CARTER BULL) Bolo has strayed into Canadian waters. Keep an eye peeled for RNE subs. Protect the convoy. There are 12 ships in Bolo. Keep at least 8 alive.
18:30:22 - Mission started at 43.13.14N, 55.9.44W
18:31:01 - Spotted a League bomber at 43.21.21N, 55.14.17W
18:32:52 - Taking fire from a League sub hunter
18:33:51 - T9 destroyed by a League sub hunter
18:33:54 - Destroyed MTB-19 with a 4in deck gun round N at 419 meters.
18:34:38 - Destroyed MTB-27 with a 40mm AA round NNW at 550 meters.
18:34:38 - M3 destroyed by a League sub hunter
18:35:14 - M1 destroyed by a League sub hunter
18:35:22 - OL13 destroyed by a League sub hunter
18:35:58 - M2 destroyed by a League sub hunter
18:36:05 - Destroyed MTB-25 with a 4in deck gun round ENE at 333 meters.
18:36:06 - Destroyed MTB-24 with a 4in deck gun round SSE at 226 meters.
18:36:33 - Destroyed MTB-22 with a 4in deck gun round ENE at 191 meters.
18:37:55 - T8 destroyed by a League sub hunter
18:38:14 - T10 destroyed by a League sub hunter
18:38:40 - Mission failed at 43.14.24N, 55.9.49W
Planes Destroyed: 0
Ships Sunk: 5
Total Tonnage Sunk: 385
I lost 7 ships in that one before it said mission failed.. ?
USA Surface Mission 6
(USS CARTER BULL) Bolo has strayed into Canadian waters. Keep an eye peeled for RNE subs. Protect the convoy. There are 12 ships in Bolo. Keep at least 8 alive.
18:54:06 - Mission started at 43.13.11N, 55.9.44W
18:56:58 - Destroyed MTB-61 with a 4in deck gun round N at 750 meters.
18:57:51 - Destroyed MTB-62 with a 4in deck gun round NNW at 405 meters.
18:58:32 - M46 destroyed by a League sub hunter
18:59:07 - M44 destroyed by a League sub hunter
18:59:30 - Destroyed B78 with a 20mm AA round WNW at 650 meters.
19:01:01 - T51 destroyed by a League sub hunter
19:01:17 - M47 destroyed by a League sub hunter
19:01:21 - T50 destroyed by a League sub hunter
19:02:12 - Destroyed by MTB-72, hit with a torpedo
19:02:12 - Destroyed MTB-69 with a 4in deck gun round N at 386 meters.
19:02:25 - Mission failed at 43.13.55N, 55.10.1W
Planes Destroyed: 1
Ships Sunk: 3
Total Tonnage Sunk: 231
If I'm going down, I'm takin' ya with me!
USA Surface Mission 6
(USS CARTER BULL) Bolo has strayed into Canadian waters. Keep an eye peeled for RNE subs. Protect the convoy. There are 12 ships in Bolo. Keep at least 8 alive.
18:40:03 - Mission started at 43.13.15N, 55.9.44W
18:42:46 - Destroyed MTB-60 with a 4in deck gun round NNE at 354 meters.
18:43:24 - Destroyed MTB-63 with a 20mm AA round ENE at 307 meters.
18:43:29 - Taking fire from a League bomber
18:44:17 - Destroyed MTB-70 with a 4in deck gun round NW at 311 meters.
18:44:55 - Destroyed MTB-72 with a 20mm AA round NW at 700 meters.
18:44:56 - M48 destroyed by a League sub hunter
18:45:06 - M45 destroyed by a League sub hunter
18:45:16 - T51 destroyed by a League sub hunter
18:45:58 - Destroyed MTB-64 with a 40mm AA round W at 184 meters.
18:45:59 - Destroyed MTB-69 with a 4in deck gun round E at 429 meters.
18:46:11 - Destroyed F79 with a 40mm AA round WSW at 550 meters.
18:47:04 - T50 destroyed by a League sub hunter
18:47:17 - Destroyed MTB-68 with a 20mm AA round E at 345 meters.
18:51:12 - Destroyed B82 with a 20mm AA round W at 700 meters.
18:52:36 - Destroyed by B83, hit with a 50cal round
18:52:59 - Mission failed at 43.13.47N, 55.8.36W
Planes Destroyed: 2
Ships Sunk: 7
Total Tonnage Sunk: 539
Sooo close.
I was hellbent on destruction...
....unfortunately I had a 50cal round with my name on it.
Send me in coach!! I can take 'em!!! ARRRGH!!

Usn Surface Campaign Mission #6
Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2004 8:42 pm
by Jaeden
USA Surface Mission 6
(USS CARTER BULL) Bolo has strayed into Canadian waters. Keep an eye peeled for RNE subs. Protect the convoy. There are 12 ships in Bolo. Keep at least 8 alive.
18:31:29 - Mission started at 43.13.10N, 55.9.44W
18:32:16 - Spotted a League bomber at 43.21.24N, 55.13.19W
18:34:57 - OL11 destroyed by a League sub hunter
18:35:07 - Destroyed MTB-23 with a 4in deck gun round N at 1200 meters.
18:35:19 - OL12 destroyed by a League sub hunter
18:35:39 - Taking fire from a League sub hunter
18:36:40 - Taking fire from a League bomber
18:36:54 - OL13 destroyed by a League sub hunter
18:37:36 - M4 destroyed by a League sub hunter
18:37:57 - FFL 14 destroyed by a League fighter
18:38:25 - Destroyed MTB-24 with a 4in deck gun round NNE at 650 meters.
18:40:50 - Destroyed MTB-31 with a 4in deck gun round WSW at 900 meters.
18:41:07 - Destroyed F37 with a 40mm AA round WSW at 169 meters.
18:41:20 - Destroyed MTB-20 with a 4in deck gun round NNW at 2100 meters.
18:42:14 - Destroyed MTB-17 with a 4in deck gun round NNW at 2600 meters.
18:43:12 - Mission failed at 43.14.16N, 55.9.51W
Planes Destroyed: 1
Ships Sunk: 5
Total Tonnage Sunk: 385
Ok what gives.... I count only 3 oilers and a 1 merchant (3+1=4, 12-4=8), the game should have continued. Or am I missing something? >;(
Can anyone explain? See above post about the game with 7 ships sunk before gettin' da' boot.
Usn Surface Campaign Mission #6
Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2004 1:55 am
by Jaeden
USA Surface Mission 6
(USS CARTER BULL) Bolo has strayed into Canadian waters. Keep an eye peeled for RNE subs. Protect the convoy. There are 12 ships in Bolo. Keep at least 8 alive.
18:30:52 - Mission started at 43.13.13N, 55.9.44W
18:31:36 - Spotted a League bomber at 43.19.39N, 55.16.13W
18:32:49 - Taking fire from a League sub hunter
18:33:15 - Destroyed MTB-18 with a 4in deck gun round NNE at 320 meters.
18:33:48 - M3 destroyed by a League sub hunter
18:34:18 - Destroyed MTB-19 with a 4in deck gun round WNW at 216 meters.
18:34:23 - Destroyed MTB-20 with a 40mm AA round ESE at 550 meters.
18:34:31 - M5 destroyed by a League sub hunter
18:34:54 - T8 destroyed by a League sub hunter
18:34:56 - Destroyed MTB-25 with a 4in deck gun round NNW at 346 meters.
18:35:06 - M6 destroyed by a League sub hunter
18:35:43 - Destroyed MTB-17 with a 4in deck gun round S at 329 meters.
18:35:46 - M2 destroyed by a League sub hunter
18:35:46 - T7 destroyed by a League sub hunter
18:37:08 - Destroyed MTB-30 with a 4in deck gun round W at 850 meters.
18:37:18 - Taking fire from a League fighter
18:37:28 - Destroyed MTB-28 with a 4in deck gun round SSE at 147 meters.
18:38:26 - Destroyed MTB-27 with a 4in deck gun round NNE at 800 meters.
18:38:46 - Destroyed MTB-26 with a 40mm AA round WSW at 438 meters.
18:40:11 - Destroyed MTB-21 with a 4in deck gun round N at 2300 meters.
18:41:28 - Destroyed B39 with a 40mm AA round SSE at 750 meters.
18:41:54 - Mission failed at 43.14.28N, 55.9.6W
Planes Destroyed: 1
Ships Sunk: 10
That was attempt 12.
If every campaign is like this, I may just shelve it 'til MP comes out.
It would be interesting to see what the average number of attempts is before mission success. Any takers? (IMO, on EASY you should be able to finish in less than 10 )
Maybe start tracking that stuff for all missions, good way to see if a mission may need some tweaking.
Also have some future suggestions that I will post in the appropriate place.