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#1 Tbar

 
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Posted 20 January 2006 - 08:23 PM

Here is an excellent hint of what we can expect in the near future .. maybe a year from now.

http://www.simhq.com...5/air_174b.html

I would also expect to have to buy a new computer to play those sims! Oh well.. it cost to be tuff :")

Although Tides is primairly WWII erea, our members do enjoy the 'modern' age of flight also :)

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Posted 21 January 2006 - 01:31 AM

http://www.lockon.ru...b030921cbda.jpg


(SBD-5 talking) "so, what does your grandchildren do?"

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Posted 25 January 2006 - 12:18 AM

Lock On was the last modern combat flight sim I tried. It was ok, but it wasn't that detailed. I guess I should try Flaming Cliffs, though. The last MS combat sim was ok, but it didn't satisfy my desire to bomb Baghdad in a F-117. :) MS never made a modern combat sim, did they?

What are the other comparable sims available?

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Posted 25 January 2006 - 01:39 AM

MS never made a modern combat sim, did they?

What are the other comparable sims available?



nope, MS never made a modern sim at least they haven't yet.

don't know about any other sim.

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Posted 20 April 2006 - 12:16 PM

Nope MS has not made a modern Combat Flight Sim. The best one out there as far as I am concerned is Falcon 4.0 AF. Although I will admit that I have not tried Flaming Cliffs (LOMAC Add on) as of yet. There are so many different types of flight sims available that one could never get anything done in real life http://forum.tidesof...tyle_emoticons/default/crazy.gif

I am currently attempting to be active with the following sims:

Condor (Excellent Soaring Sim)I have found this one to be very realistic and use it regularly to practice my soaring skills- http://www.condorsoaring.com

MS FS9 (use this to try and keep my IFR skills up)- http://www.microsoft...tsimulator.aspx

Silent Wings (Another very worthy Soaring Sim)- http://www.silentwings.no

Virtual Skipper 4 (Sailing Sim... very realistic! if you want to learn Sailbot racing this is the one!)
http://www.virtualsk.../index_vsk4.htm

And of Course IL2:PF

I see that MS FSX is being discussed. The release has now been delayed until Jan 07. It looks to be THE next generation though. It is being designed for optimization with MS' new operating system, Windows Vista, but will operate on XP. I am looking forward to this one coming out. If you want to know more here is the MS FSX official site:
http://www.microsoft...simulatorx.aspx


Another one worth looking at is X-Plane. A competitor to MSFS and supposedly has more realistic flight dynamics. Graphics aren't as pretty but then again it does not have the 100,000 ft altitude limitation of MSFS. It has a really cool Shuttle landing sim where you start at 400,000 ft and 17,500 mph over Hawaii and must land at Edwards. You can more info at:
http://www.x-plane.com/

And of course 'What about BoB'?? I now hear that it will be late 07 before it appears on the market.

I find that if you want to be a complete pilot then a mix of good sims is helpful. In real life I am a Commercial/IFR SEL (Single Engine Land) and a Commercial Glider Rated pilot. I do not work full time as a pilot anymore- used to work South Dakota/Nebraska/Kansas as a Crop Duster. I do still fly, work part time towing gliders & give some glider rides occasionally when they need help. While sims can never replace real life experience... they do help. I use MSFS to keep my instrument skills going, it allows me to practice procedures, simulate bad weather, etc. In fact the US Navy provides copies of MSFS to it's student pilots because it helps them with the learning process. For those of you flight enthusiast's that do not have MSFS or X-Plane you are really missing something- especially for those that want to learn the nuts and bolts of flying. I personally have my own copies of every sim listed above of course except for FSX & BoB which are not out yet.

My brother is coming out this next month for 2 weeks and is getting his private glider rating. We have been using Condor and Silent Wings to get him ready for his course. During the time he is taking the lessons, we will work in the evening on these two Sims to help further develop the skills and lessons he has learned that day. We are making a film of of this whole venture which we hope to publish. He will be blogging his experience daily on our website www.ok-adventures.com so if any of you are interested you can keep track of it. I would like to put in my two cents worth here about soaring. The Luftwaffe used gliders/soaring as a means of providing initial flight training to it's pilots. Their skills and war record speaks for itself. The USAF Academy today uses gliders/soaring as initial training. Learning to fly gliders has not only been an immense joy to me personally, but it also greatly helped to improve my flight skills even though I was a Commerical/IFR pilot before I learned. To those real life pilots out there I recommend two thing to great improve your skills and flying enjoyment 1) Get your taildragger sign-off if you have not done so & 2) get a glider addon rating. Both options are pretty cheap compared to your initial certification. For those that are not rated... look into soaring. Flying Gliders does not require a Medical. There are clubs everywhere all over the world. Learning to fly in a club is very inexpensive... typical rental rates are around $10-15 an hour (NO that is not a typo) and with an aerotow costing $20+. If you are diligent you can get a Private rating (USA) for $1500 or so. Typical cost to solo would be less than $1000 not including any club dues which vary greatly between clubs. If you are interested you can find the nearest Club or FBO to train at:

http://www.ssa.org/s.../wheretofly.asp

For general information visit the SSA (Soaring Society of America) website:

http://www.ssa.org

For those that can... get involved in real life flying! Learn to fly in the tradition of the Luftwaffe and USAF. It will make your sim experience that much better and since most of you have been onvolved in Sims it will make you real life flying that much better. If any of you guys are interested and would like to contact me about it I would be happy to discuss it with you or answer any questions. As Larry the Cable Guy would say.... Git'r Done!!

Glider

Edited by Glider, 20 April 2006 - 12:18 PM.


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Posted 20 April 2006 - 03:23 PM

ive dabbled with xplane my mates even downloaded the local airport (jhon lennon )
and some local land marks lol

what i liked tbh was the pure silly things you can do like
be towed and set the plane towing say at 100,000ft while the towed plane is still at ground level un pause and woooosh

also some weird things like a trebant car and a lawn mower wt? lol

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Posted 20 April 2006 - 03:29 PM

WoW.. that is a full read .. and a lot to absorb! Very informative in all.

I did notice a 'virtual skipper' discussion in the 'by sea' portion of this board someplace. One of the Admin at Tides is a 'sailing nut' and competes in sailing events.

We really appreciate a person with your knowledge posting here at Tides, it really helps advance the community knowledge base. For those that are new to the flight sims, this type of information is excellent commentary. tks!

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Posted 21 April 2006 - 03:50 AM

Glider

Excellent post and thanks for posting it on ToW as well.

In the RN we also run gliding courses to encourage Potential Officers to sign up - One such is J S Bell (Virtual Name), a sim mate of mine since he was 13. Now 18, he is about to take his Admiralty Interview Board to join the Fleet Air Arm.

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Posted 08 March 2007 - 12:47 PM

Hiya I would not really recommend it I have been told by many people the missions are not very good and also it is not much of an improvment from Flight Simulator 2004 (think it is 2004). their are a few additional planes etc but i have had most the planes in the new ne on Flight Simulator 2004 as add ons and the community building the add-ons is big and many of them if you search the right places are just like originals. So if you dont want to upgrade your computer for a slight graphics increase and spend lots of money on the game, get yourself a copy of Flight Simulator 2004 and please your needs the cheap way. :)

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Hiya I would not really recommend it I have been told by many people the missions are not very good and also it is not much of an improvment from Flight Simulator 2004 (think it is 2004). their are a few additional planes etc but i have had most the planes in the new ne on Flight Simulator 2004 as add ons and the community building the add-ons is big and many of them if you search the right places are just like originals. So if you dont want to upgrade your computer for a slight graphics increase and spend lots of money on the game, get yourself a copy of Flight Simulator 2004 and please your needs the cheap way. :)

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Posted 13 February 2009 - 05:17 PM

wow tbar i want to play that 1day http://forum.tidesof...tyle_emoticons/default/crazy.gif